Canadian Film Forum

Grand_Shaman · Administrator Data inscrierii: 26/Oct/2007 Mesaje: 112

I invite you to chat here about the first film we watched, "Nouvelle France".

Pop Maria · Trimis: 07/11/2009 16:29 Titlul subiectului: Re: NOUVELLE FRANCE

“La Nouvelle France” it’s about novelty and people’s attitude towards it. It is a step towards “the new France”; old-fashioned mentality vs. new mentality. It’s about an important step women made towards the equality between them and men. There are two scenes that sustain this statement: the scene when Marie-Loup confronts with strength the man who wanted to rape Acoona and the scene when Francois wanted to kiss her and he didn’t force her but let her decide and make the first step. The 1st scene is the background for the 2nd one, because it shows the long fight women passed through to reach the freedom of choice and opinion. The 2nd scene is the moment when, finally, something good happens and could be considered a teaching lesson for men and their attitude towards women. 8-)

“La Nouvelle France” may refer to a France with a new mentality, feelings rather than ration. Think of the sacrifice Marie-Loup did for her daughter compared to the rational attitude of Marie-Loup’s father towards her. This issue reminds me of a real story that I’ve read somewhere. In the communism, peasants had to return a percentage of their production to the state and someday a naïve boy of 15 years old told the police about his father’s hidden amount of grains thinking at doing what was right.
The scene of Marie-Loup’s punishment stays for the idea of any murder should be punished no matter what the background of the crime is (feelings or no feelings), someone always has to pay. If you want to make a sacrifice that’s your choice! Therefore, there’s a new world with strong feelings but where ration is not excluded but makes the basis of this world, there’s a new world based on the old one.
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Maria Pop

Raluca · Trimis: 12/11/2009 01:04 Titlul subiectului:

raluca Ghimbulut

First of all, I would like to say that I was truly touched when we watched the film Nouvelle France. Regarding this aspect, not just the drama itself impressed me but also the way in which it was rendered. The way in which the actors played their roles, the way in which they really showed their depth of feelling, making myself feel like I was in the movie...
It was a movie that could under no circumstances make me lose interest in watching it. Thus, my propensity is to believe that this fact is also a result of the director's job, a well done one, in the sense that he knew how to make the scenes, the light, the music and the shots fit the drama of the characters. Most of the scenes were indeed breathtaking. I was deeply impressed by the relationship mother-child, a very powerful one, by the strenght of both Marie-Loup and the little girl France, Marie-Loup's strenght in front of death but also France's reaction to see her mother taken to death. There are of course other things worth mentioning but my conclusion is that out of all the issues touched upon in the movie, the power of the lie stands out. Thus, the lies in the movie lead not just to the destruction of a world, of a society with its specific problems but implicitly to the destruction of individuals and toying of their feelings...

nico_kerekes · Junior Data inscrierii: 16/Mar/2009 Mesaje: 9

When I first heard the title of the film I thought it was going to be a historical one, and though it contained historical elements, it was more a romance film. Despite the fact that the focus of the film was the love story and not historical events, it was a nice film with beautiful scenery. What impressed me most was the relationship between Marie-Loup and her daughter. However, the plot was predictable…

Tabita · Trimis: 19/11/2009 16:51 Titlul subiectului:

Nouvelle France… a tragic love story set on a historical background…a rather feeble background, I might say. I believe the historical facts were not meant to capture much of out attention, God forbid they should distract us from all the romance going on. I also think that the English were portrayed with a lack of seriousness. Tim Roth is a great actor, but his performance in Nouvelle France made the English part quite ridiculous.

The plot… too much!! I mean how many tragic events is a person given to live? Seems like Marie-Loup got the whole package. And the scene where her daughter sees her in that cage… that is just too far-fetched. I find the movie too unrealistic to be touching.

maria daraban · Junior Data inscrierii: 02/Dec/2009 Mesaje: 4

Nouvelle France was of a very good help for us as beginners in the study of Canadian film. We tried to analyze different scenes and images and some of us gave creative interpretations. The film combined both the historic and personal course of events, but the latter had a greater impact on me. There were several scenes where certain feelings, especially Marie Loup's misery were transmitted accurately through expressive sequences. I think that the tragic end of Mary Loup made the film so appreciated.

viorica · Junior Data inscrierii: 10/Dec/2009 Mesaje: 6

It is a film about the French Canadian territory called “ LA NOUVELLE FRANCE”. Its ambitions are to present a historical period with its customs and the mentality of the
epoch. But the most relevant feature of the film is the destiny of an individual that mingles with the destiny of the community. The film begins with very beautiful and mysterious landscapes which are doubled by a wonderful music. All the atmosphere is in accordance with the mood and the feelings of the characters.. The wind that is blowing announces already a tragedy and even the voice of the main character is tragic. Even though this film remains a romance film we can find some wise ideas like “ c’est important de ne pas être ignorant, c’est ça la vraie liberté” or “ la guerre se gagne,la paix s’achète” , “tout est négociable, même un pays.”

adela_bm2007 · Trimis: 01/02/2010 12:11 Titlul subiectului:

Le film est une vaste fresque historique et le recit epique d'une histoire d'amour contrariee par les evenements et par les hommes.L'epoque est bouleversante: l'effondrement de la Nouvelle France et l'instauration du regime anglais Inspiree de faits reels l'histoire des amours tragiques d'une paysanne et un aventurier se deroule a la maniere d'une destinee ineluctable, parallelement a une autre histoire, celle de l'abandon du Canada par la France. C'EST LA FOI QUE L'AMOUR VA GAGNER.MAIS NON.ON A L'ABANDON.ABANDONNER UN PAYS,UNE FEMME

Grand_Shaman · Administrator Data inscrierii: 26/Oct/2007 Mesaje: 112

Turda Simona · Junior Data inscrierii: 28/Apr/2010 Mesaje: 11

What I really found touching in this movie is the pure love of the two, that could not be complete, just like in ''Romeo and Julliet", someone must be there to interrupt the normal way of things, making the story even more dramatic.

Turda Simona · Junior Data inscrierii: 28/Apr/2010 Mesaje: 11

I find Marie-Loup a brave and strong woman, a woman that doesn't fear anything, she is used to the hard life she's living as she sais to the lady that she got married when she was 14, she learnt how to make a living, she struggled on her own but what I admire the most in this woman is her self-control, I mean, there are some instances when she is really mad, angry, sad, but she never shouts at her daughter, she is a true example of a good-hearted mother, a tender woman, innocent and yet powerfull.

Turda Simona · Junior Data inscrierii: 28/Apr/2010 Mesaje: 11

It falls upon me that Marie -Loup can be compared with Vitoria Lipan from Romanian novel ''Baltagul". She's as strong, as wise ann intelligent as her, even though simple peasant women, she never gets defeated, she fights for her rights even if it costs her life. She's and her familly are christians who believe in God and pray all the time, they even have these rites for instance when her daughter wants to eat her grandfather reminds her that she forgot about something...crossing the bread.

Turda Simona · Junior Data inscrierii: 28/Apr/2010 Mesaje: 11

Even if life wasn't too good with her, Marie-Loup has a terrific relationship with her daughter who seems to understand her everytime.She's a small girl and yet a mature one, she can give her mother the moral support she needs just like when Marie-Loup's fathet lied her about Francois and his feelings, she couldn;t sleep that night and was writting his name over and over, Her daughter came to her their lores switched, now she was the one comforting her mother as she laid her head on her knees and started crying, Her daughter carefully carressed her hair and eas there for her even if she was too young to understand what was really happening.

Turda Simona · Junior Data inscrierii: 28/Apr/2010 Mesaje: 11

Carefull, lovin and tender mother but also a passionate and sensual woman. She is a very simple woman that as Mattawa sais "elle a la peau pale mais le coeur d'un Innu" that means she's a brave and fierless woman. The only weak point i could see in her was when she got the ''wrong/untrue messae of Francois from her father and when she finds out that he wishes her to forget him she is going to throw herself in an abrupt but she then stops as she couldn't leave her little daughter alone.

Turda Simona · Junior Data inscrierii: 28/Apr/2010 Mesaje: 11

Another thing that i find remarkable is Francois' speech to her : Quand je ample les yeus, je vous vois, quand je les ouvre , je vous cherche" They both seem to fall deeply in love, even if they didn't dare to express their feelings freely from the beginning, I'm speaking about that moment when they are with horses, they remain alone for a clipă and she felt she couldn't resist him and let him hold her hand tenderly..AKoona seems to be a passional woman to , she sais it's pitty if she won't leave him kiss her, explaining :"je te le dirais plu tard" or when she leaned against the wall and said in reply to little girl's comment "love is so complicated" that "c'est tellement bon" while closing her eyes.Then, their first kiss is a very romantic and sensual ocazie when he pulls her towards him, she sais shae knows he's powerfull, fact that i think made her give up, she carefully aproapches but still doesn't dar to kiss him even though she feels an huge urge to do it. They touch slowly and then he passionately kisses her.

Turda Simona · Junior Data inscrierii: 28/Apr/2010 Mesaje: 11

When she accepts the reality that Francois ''doesn't love her'' she marries another man that promisses to take care of her, but the marriage doesn;t last because her mind is at Francois,she then meets them and makes love to him, she faces the reality and tells his husband that she doesn't love him and she never did, the moment when he slaps her and she runs angry to her father blaming him.

Turda Simona · Junior Data inscrierii: 28/Apr/2010 Mesaje: 11

When she accepts the reality that Francois ''doesn't love her'' she marries another man that promisses to take care of her, but the marriage doesn;t last because her mind is at Francois,she then meets them and makes love to him, she faces the reality and tells his husband that she doesn't love him and she never did, the clipă when he slaps her and she runs angry to her father blaming him.

Turda Simona · Junior Data inscrierii: 28/Apr/2010 Mesaje: 11

THe move can be compared to another one called ''Brave heart" in two ways, first there's trap set up both for Francois on his way to Marie-Loup and Murron ridding to escape the British after almost being raped. Then the ends of the two movie are simillar too, in this one she doesn't want to confess and dies hung just like William Wallace, who fought for Scothland's peace died brave because he didn't want to beg for mercy from the British king and so got tortured in finally killed.

Turda Simona · Junior Data inscrierii: 28/Apr/2010 Mesaje: 11

THe move can be compared to another one called ''Brave heart" in two ways, first there's trap set up both for Francois on his way to Marie-Loup and Murron ridding to escape the British after almost being raped. Then the ends of the two movie are simillar too, in this one she doesn't want to confess and dies hung just like William Wallace, who fought for Scothland's peace died brave because he didn't want to beg for mercy from the British king and so got tortured in finally killed.

ale · Trimis: 30/06/2010 18:35 Titlul subiectului:

As the others have said, I like Mraie-Loup for being such a strong, powerful woman in an era that was deffinitely controlled by men. Though she didn't have the possibility to become somebody, she did everything for her girl, whom she loved more than even her life (she preffered to be sentenced to death than let anything heppen to France). She tried to give France a better life, by providing for her the opportunity to learn to read and write, though she herself couldn't.
The end, yes, it'a a tragical one, she pays for a crime she didn't commit only to protect her child who killed a man who tried to rape her. If someone expected a turn in the end, which would have saved Marie-Loup, who really deserved it after teh misfortunes she had all her life, well, the director tricked us.

Gabi Rosus · Trimis: 07/07/2010 20:17 Titlul subiectului:

A movie about strong family ties, about the relation mother- daughter. Protection of the loved ones give power to stand up and confront danger. On the other hand there is the love story that is soft and in contrats with the strenght of the female characters. But foremost it is a movie of females survival in a harsh world. Beautiful scenaries and music very touching.

Gabi Rosus · Trimis: 07/07/2010 20:20 Titlul subiectului:

A movie about strong family ties, about the relation mother- daughter. Protection of the loved ones give power to stand up and confront danger. On the other hand there is the love story that is soft and in contrats with the strenght of the female characters. But foremost it is a movie of females survival in a harsh world. Beautiful scenaries and music very touching.